Thursday, July 27, 2006

I once mentioned that every Democrat was running for President...

...there was a time that I thought I was exaggerating.

July is not known as a hot month for local politics, so some recent developments in the 12th Congressional District race are so much more unusual.

Last week, we reported that a private investigator was checking into Washington County Commissioner Diana Irey on behalf of U.S. Rep. John Murtha, whom Irey is challenging in November. A woman visited the county elections office requesting copies of Irey's campaign finance forms in her races for commissioner and information from a state database that would show how often she voted.

While all of these things are matters of public record, Irey cited rumors that the investigation is more widespread and extends to another locale as well. She also charged that the Murtha campaign has previously looked into other opponents' pasts.

A statement from Murtha denied there was anything sinister about the effort to gather information about a candidate from the public record, but added, "especially when that person is not well known."

That sounds strange. Far from being an unknown, Irey has been a county commissioner since her election in 1995, and Murtha has represented a large portion of this county in Congress for nearly four years. We can't imagine his campaign brain trust sitting around asking, "Who is this lady and where did she come from?"
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Monday's newspaper carried a picture of Murtha campaigning, not in Washington or Waynesburg, but in Hampton, N.H. While the AP failed to mention it, Murtha has already expressed interest in a presidential race and seems to be looking beyond this November to 2008 and bigger things.


Help Mothra get an early start on his Presidential campaign here!

Comments:
Murtha/Feingold to clean up the mess.
 
Off-topic for Danish:

Hi D-I-V -- I read Rodney's original article late last night and was surprised, too. But he's a really good guy, and I knew that he couldn't have meant it in the context it was written. It was a lot of thoughts about the Kimmer that simply didn't flow together properly - was glad to see he amended it. And thanks to you (and RW) for keeping me safe by deleting the "live" email addresses from both of my favorite "fluff" blogs.

Now, RW -- I had three choices of where to post -- here, MLs or Rodney's. Did I get it wrong, again? (tee hee hee)
 
You have got to be kidding. How old is this guy. Are they going to address the age issue like they did with RR?

I guess he can always claim that his digging on Irey was motivated by senility. Could put him in the political graveyard prematurely.

The rest of it...."Pot to Kettle". Bringing home the bacon? Getalife knows all about that, don't you Getalife. Are your "Eyes Wide Shut" on this one.
 
@@,

He is in his prime as a politician and was right about Iraq.

The new plan is to extend in country time.

I feel bad for the ones that were planning to come home.
 
Honu,

I have never read the radio blog until today, and have not seen the AI blog either.

He could very well be a really nice guy. At least he actually reads the comments and takes action.

There is a larger societal problem though when people think it is appropriate to post a blog topic when that person is out of town and mourning his father's death and then to talk about how his ratings will look on Thursday.

Just as it was inappropriate to turn Senator Wellstone and Coretta Scott Kings' memorials into political rallies, and for an egoist to complain that since Kimmer's dad was 62 while their parents were only in their 30s he does not deserve our sympathy.

This stuff is not a question of using the correct fork at dinner - these are basic rules of civilized behavior that are not being observed.
 
Um, who is Rodney?
 
getalife,

Rodney Ho. All I know is that he is the guy who responded when I complained to AJC "management" that they were making private email addresses public and that the "Radio Talk" blog on the topic of "The Kimmer" today was tasteless.

He's not perfect, but I think they could use him over at MLs.
 
Honu,

If getalife would put his blog back online you could have posted it there and explained to him who Rodney Ho (entertainment and gossip writer for the AJC) is.

Actually since you know Buy Danish regularly posts here this was a good choice.

@@,

That David comment was a takeoff on a Kimmer bit. He's a former Marine and just after five each day does a Marine style cadence call.
 
getalife,

Every so often I think you are really a secret Republican operative. That idea of the Democrats putting up Mothra and Feingold is brilliant.
 
Thanks RW, now I know a little something about "The Kimmer".

I'm gonna e-mail you an article from my new subscription. They're long...I just want to find out how or if they'll catch me. Do you mind? I'm going to send it to somebody, it may as well be someone who is interested in the topic. I'll send something within the next day or two.

Getalife:

Here's Murtha priming the political pump.

I thought you didn't like things that were "bugged". Murtha needs our help, we should call an exterminator.
 
@@,

Just let me know when you send it so I will remember to check for it. There is a link to Kimmer on my main page.
 
Buy Danish – a few weeks ago you and I briefly discussed, here at RW’s, Rodney’s American Idol blog, and I stated it’s worse than ML’s. You [para-phrasing] said no way. Well, way. If you want a further example of the basic rules of civilization not being observed, read yesterday’s AI comments. These nice, seemingly harmless, friendly women who blog everyday (when Idol is off-season) -- on topics from the best hairdresser to trying to sell their homes to child-rearing -- tried and convicted Jim Ewing for the death of his wife, Jennifer. Reason? He’s a man; they’re always hiding something; therefore he’s guilty. We all know different tonight.

Since I read both the radio and AI blog, I was more perturbed by the conviction of Mr. Ewing (his wife was still missing, by the way, as they were blogging) than what I read about the Kimmer and the death of his father. As reprehensible as the blogger’s comment was about the length of time the Kimmer had his father, he [The Kimmer] is tough and has taken on more worthy opponents; if you read the radio blog consistently you’d see what I was talking about. However, Mr. Ewing did NOT deserve the wrath of those ill-informed women. And I wondered, did his kids read that?


You did a good thing, Buy Danish, by bringing Kimmer’s situation to Rodney’s attention. Rodney did a good thing in re-writing his article and apologizing to you. What Rodney can’t do is edit those posts which anger us, just as I had no right to ask RW to remove the link that outraged me.
 
Say it with me.

Mr. Murtha was right about Iraq.

Admit it.
 
Man, this thread is very sad.
 
Honu,

Rodney actually does have every right to edit or delete posts as he sees fit because it's his blog. The difference is that the blog owner is the one that makes that decision.

ml's blog has gotten carried away with their censorship by leaving up extremely offensive comments and taking down links to simple news stories that don't fit their agenda. As sad a method of operation I may think that is it's their right to ruin their blog anyway they wish.
 
getalife,

I think we finally agree on something. It is really sad how selfish and myopic those people on that thread are.
 
Getalife:

Say it with me....Murtha has bugs in his head. We must bang it...bang it against a brick wall. Getalife has experience in the art. He can help get the bugs out of Murtha's head.

Boink!!!

RW:

I liked Kimmer's site. Funny, heartwarming (I boo hooed, just a little), he has a common sense approach to issues. Something there peaked my interest and I am off to wander the internet.
 
@@,

Try not to get lost in the tubes.
 
RW,

Murtha and Feingold have positioned themselves with the Dems for leadership positions.

The GOP, well, I can't see any leaders out of that party.

Sorry.
 
Well, okay then, RW. If they (meaining any blog-ruler) can edit commentary at will (I'm not talking about personal threats like what happened to me), then why have the blog at all? Why doesn't ML simply post his cartoon like he used to and leave the rest of the page blank? Why does Rodney ask for comments? Why does Jim Wooten continue to incite liberals every day? What is the point of all of this? I guess I'm just not getting it.
 
getalife,

Remember what I said about myopia? Just because you can't see leadership doesn't mean it doesn't exist. I am perfectly content to let Mothra and McCains partner in speech control be the face of the Democrat party.

If you guys really want to improve your image why don't you run Crazy Howie out of there?
 
Honu,

It really wasn't a big deal, except for that public email error which is bad news.

I only brought it up at MLs to demonstrate to demonstrate that the AJC has a generic problem differentiating between reason and insanity, and to illustrate for the psychotic parrot that the person who is falling apart is not me.

I hope you don't let those broads at AI just blab on uninterrupted!
 
Honu,

I agree with you that the comments should stay, but that doesn't mean the individual blog owner doesn't retain the right to do what they want.

And in fairness to ml every time he has written something about it he has seemed happy to have an open debate. I'm not sure who is behind the latest bout of censorship.
 
oops, to demonstrate to demonstrate.

Pick one and delete.
 
Buy Danish,

Did you give Andy's sulfur link a little time to load? It comes up with a green screen until the page loads and it's pretty interesting.
 
RW,

Just for the record, I wasn't advocating deleting comments, just criticizing the Blog Topics as proposed by AJC staff (like Nikita's Ken Lay venge fest topic.

Whoever is censoring stuff at MLs is clueless as to what the "problem posts" are.
 
RW,

It must be my prehistoric computer. All I get is green and "Done". Not even a hint that something else is loading.

What about the rotten eggs question - does it address that? I hate the smell of sulphur, so this is a really important question from my perspective.
 
Buy Danish -- We have a separate blog (theblawgpound) that was set up by one of our regulars after all of us were threatened by the idiot. That's where I chastised them, not at Rodney's. Didn't get any answers, however. Hmmmmm, wonder if your psychotic parrot is ours, too?

Getalife - that was a very telling article. My sister could be the author of some of that -- we know first hand, too.
 
Buy Danish,

You and I should try to merge our typing skills. I always seem to leave out words and would happily accept your extras!

I know you weren't advocating that and I was just pointing out that as much as you, Honu, or I might not like removing comments the blog owner still has the right to do it.

Frankly I'm always skeptical of someone's position if they don't allow dissent and defend their position, but if a blog has well defined topics and comments are off topic I have no problem at all with them being removed.

We don't have that problem here because an on topic comment is a rarity and I like that.

ml has never asked anyone to stick to the cartoon either, although that would be a good way to put that blog out of it's misery.
 
Buy Danish,

It's not a very long story. I'll copy it and bring it over. Without the page you can't see the Goldilocks video though.
 
RW,

The difference between Rodney Ho and Jim Wooten for instance is that they personally get involved with the comments. At MLs it's just censorship by proxy.

Moving alongk, I liked this from the other Limbaugh:

"But with the Democratic Party's fair-weather attitude toward Israel over the years and the Left's oft-expressed sympathy for Palestinian grievances against Israel, it's hard to take seriously their feints toward outrage at the prime minister's position on Hezbollah. It's hard not to laugh -- given their unwavering opposition to President Bush -- when they say al Maliki should not be given a platform because he opposes U.S. foreign policy goals."

Touche' bro.
 
One way to curb global warming is to purposely shoot sulfur into the atmosphere, a scientists suggested today.

The burning of fossil fuels releases carbon dioxide, a greenhouse gas, into the atmosphere. It also releases sulfur that cools the planet by reflecting solar radiation away from Earth.

Hot Topic
Goldilocks and the Greenhouse
What makes Earth habitable? This LiveScience original video explores the science of global warming and explains how, for now, conditions here are just right.




Most researchers say the warming effect has been winning in recent decades.

Injecting sulfur into the second atmospheric layer closest to Earth would reflect more sunlight back to space and offset greenhouse gas warming, according to Nobel laureate Paul Crutzen from the Max Planck Institute for Chemistry in Germany and the Scripps Institution of Oceanography, University of California at San Diego.

Crutzen suggests carrying sulfur into the atmosphere via balloons and using artillery guns to release it, where the particles would stay for up to two years. The results could be seen in six months.

Nature does something like this naturally.

When Mount Pinatubo erupted in the Philippines in1991, millions of tons of sulfur was injected into the atmosphere, enhancing reflectivity and cooling the Earth’s surface by an average of 0.9 degrees Fahrenheit in the year following the eruption.

“Given the grossly disappointing international political response to the required greenhouse gas emissions, ... research on the feasibility and environmental consequences of climate engineering of the kind presented in this paper, which might need to be deployed in future, should not be tabooed,” Crutzen said.

This proposal is detailed in the August issue of the journal Climatic Change.

 
I guess it was a little longer than it looked. Good thing the character counters weren't over here.
 
RW,

Thanks! Even if I could see the video I couldn't hear it as there is no sound here. I take it that Goldilocks is not Golden Shower Goldie, but someone resembling the classic G rated children's story.
 
Honu,

It is tough to read but some look at their sacrifice for the war as "selfish and myopic".

Iraq is a bigger clusterfuck than Vietnam.
I thought I would never see another war like this in my lifetime but I have and I am ashamed for my country again. Will they ever learn, probably not.

BTW, unlike Kimmer's opponent, when I fight I do not sue. LOL.
 
RW,

Ha Ha. I just realized that I can prove the old "if a tree falls in a desert does it make a sound" question.

The answer is: NO.
 
Buy Danish,

Much to getalife's chagrin it's not a golden shower video.

It's Venus representing "Too Hot" Mars is "Too Cold" and Earth is "Just Right", I didn't watch long enough to see if any manbearpigs showed up.
 
RW (and Andy),

Interesting.

Of course we could just release artillery shells at key IslamoFascist locations and get the same result.
 
Getalife,

I can understand your opposition to the Iraq War. What I cannot fathom is your "shame".

RW,

Did you happen to see the clip of Bolton battling Pompous Ass Kerry today? Smackdown.
 
getalife,

Iraq is a bigger clusterfuck than Vietnam.

That is one of the stupidest statements I've ever heard. Iraq is a helluva lot closer to the United States around the time of the Revolutionary war than it is to Vietnam.

It is absurd to think that Iraq was not in any position to be a threat. Containment wasn't an option because of the O.F.F. bribes that were rapidly eroding sanctions. Once those were off and we were moved out Saddam would be free to arm to the teeth and pass weapons to whatever terrorist group wanted to go after us.

I know you hate hearing this but the lesson of 9/11 is that sometimes threats will have to be confronted before they fully materialize.

If Iraq is causing us to be less safe or powerful as a country it isn't because of the war itself, it's because the leftists in this country are sending a loud and clear message to the world that the US can't be counted on to sustain a necessary fight.
 
Buy Danish,

That was classic!!

Kerry: Why doesn't this administration do things like the Clinton administration? They negotiated with North Korea.

Bolten: Not very well either, North Korea violated that agreement before the ink was dry.
 
Returning for just a second, then to bed.

RW: mgc has a Native American story at his site. It reminded me of Dusty. A life lesson.

Buy Danish: I was going to ask the same question on the sulphur. My daughter used to call it a "rockin egg smell" when she was little.

Getalife: BOINK!!!

O.K., taking my nose out of where it doesn't belong. (Just in case Midori's @@ing.)

BOO!!!!
 
RW,

Thanks for taking Getalife up on that clusterfuk comment. He really pisses me off, but I try to stay out of these macho male discussions.

I read his post from the grieving mother, and frankly I found it nauseating, but not for the intended reasons.

Maybe if that soldier had a mother who supported him and his mission, and who didn't ignore all the hideous things that the Iraqis endured before we arrived, he wouldn't feel so despondent.

The mother is making her kid feel like a baby killer for xsakes. Talk about a guilt trip.

Getalife,

Did you happen to hear about the email from the Canadian UN worker who was killed a few days ago? I just bet that that soldier's mom is with Kofi "rush to judgement" Annan all the way.
 
@@,

Leftists in California got rid of some bakeries because of their methane production or something or other. It would be ironic if wonderful smelling bakeries were banned, but rotten eggs were declared a necessity.

Where would Proust be if these Californians had been around when he was savoring his memory of Madeleines? No remembrance of things past. And one less book to slog through.

But I digress.
 
Buy Danish,

As interesting as the sulfur story is (and I don't think the second level atmospheric sulfur would be the malodorous type you are worried about), I don't want this guy fooling with Mother Nature either.

Let's say we do this, cool things down, and all of a sudden a natural blast of sulfur came from the Earth's core. We would suddenly be back to 1970's global cooling hysteria, only this time they might be right.
 
Still waiting on admitting Murtha is right.

You will never admit it and is not worthy of debate.

The majority of Americans agree with me and that is good enough for me.
 
RW,

I had the same thought. What if we're just about to go into the next ice age phase? Don't mess with mother nature.

I'm okay with those artillery shots at Hamas though.
 
Getalife -- I understand your opposition to the Iraq war, as well. I am, however, so incredibly fatigued trying to decide who is right and who is wrong and apparently don't possess the smarts to come up with a solution. I have looked at all sides - it's my best quality. My worst being not having an answer after all of the time I've put into it.

Off topic . .

Putin – the man who just made a deal with the devil in Venezuela. So Jim Wooten asks in his column AGAIN today, when/if a moderate perceived an Al-Qaida, e.g., threat to America, how would he/she handle it? Well, duh, Mr. Wooten, haven’t given that much thought lately considering the real threat is practically in our own backyard. I refuse to believe any faction in the Middle East is a bigger threat to America than Chavez and his best friends Vlad and Fidel.

So that's what I'd tell MW if his blog wasn't closed now.
 
getalife,

Mothra wants to invade Okinawa. I can't even begin to understand why you think that's a good thing.

The majority of the country elected President Bush and in spite of your polls they would again today if you reran the 2004 election.

Scoreboard!
 
Honu,

If it really means that much to you I can open his blog. Just don't tell anyone or let them read this comment ;-)
 
Hey RW? Like I told you -- go to Spaceweather.com -- none of that scary stuff -- just really cool celestial happenings (smile). I even signed up for Space Phone -- they call me when something really cool is about to happen, that I can see through my telescope. It rocks.

On reflection, if the Pacific "Ring of Fire" was above sea level, we wouldn't need to mess with Mother Nature, now would we? Have to believe God has a plan there. . .
 
Honu,

I was all for the war in Afganistan to get OBL after 9/11 as were most Americans.

Iraq is a totally different story and it stinks. They are sending more troops to Baghdad and it will not be over until W is out of office.
 
Honu,

Here is the current weather report on your site:

SPACE WEATHER
Current
Conditions

Solar Wind
speed: 678.8 km/s
density: 6.4 protons/cm3
explanation | more data
Updated: Today at 0305 UT

X-ray Solar Flares
6-hr max: A6 1800 UT Jul27
24-hr: B2 1640 UT Jul27



I'm afraid that's a little much for me. Do they really have to call you for that Spacephone deal? Why don't they use email like the rest of the world?
 
getalife,

As a reaction to your Murtha comments, I'm just about ready to say that I approve of sending an artillery gun to Louisiana.

It's for the enviroment so you should be cool with that. Literally.

G'nite.

Honu,

They're all threats - that's the problem. Only the 9/11 actors were from the Middle East so they are a more immediate problem.

It's a big bad world out there, and it doesn't help to have "Peace Moms" like Cindy Sheehan, and celebritites like Belafonte sucking up to Chavez and weakening our position at home and abroad.

I appreciate the fact that while you are torn about the Iraq War, your motives are not just to bring down Bush by any means necessary.

G'nite to all.
 
Anonymous -- how does one access a blog when it is closed? There's no box at the bottom for me to write me comments. . .believe me, I've looked! I'm not computer savvy. . .so how do you do that?
 
Thanks Buy Danish -- have a good evening.

RW -- wiseguy, always! You have to read past that sunspot stuff and solar-wind-o-meter! And I don't know why no email -- a phone call is so cool! It's immediate and wakes you up when you're sleeping so you don't miss the comet streaking by!
 
Honu,

That's not something I can tell you. I suggest you wait until morning.
 
Buy Danish,

Goodnight!
 
Honu,

I watched the Halle Boppe comet right outside my bedroom window every night for a month a few years back. Do they really just go streaking by?

Besides which I live around too many other people to be poking around with a telescope in the middle of the night. That sounds more like something OotMVoD would be doing.
 
RW -- yes, they do streak by. But perhaps I meant meteor. Or perhaps it was just an airplane landing at BDL. Whatever, it's a really cool thing to get the phone call. I'm very fortunate -- my house backs up to a farmer's field so I have a lot of dark sky here and can see so much from my backyard.

Hey, why did that anony-person tell me he/she could post to JW, then retract the offer? Whatup with that???
 
Honu,

I'm pretty sure that the anonymous person knows how to post to a closed blog, but doesn't want to tell you all the intricacies of how to modify the source code of the page to do it.

Just a guess!
 
RW -- modify the source code, eh? Now I could tell you about solar winds and sun spots, but when it comes to source codes. . .duh. I'll just have to wait to tell JW what I think tomorrow. You know though, just like I did with you the first time, I'll give it my 24-hour rule and usually by that time I'm not so agitated so I won't call him a schmuck (well, I gave you the four hour, drive around rule - almost the same and I didn't call you names).
 
Honu,

It's quite true that you didn't call me any names. I can't say the same for all the others you motivated, but fear not, I can take it and on occasion I might even give it back a bit.
 
Sorry RW -- that's really not in my nature to motivate others to hate and call names. I was really upset that day. Then I was called a freakin' idiot blah blah blah.

But it's lead to the start of some very nice friendships and dialog, eh? Even if I'm a "fence straddler". <-- that is NOT a word by the way.
 
Okay, RW - one more heavy question before we retire. What do you think of the dems thinking about putting Barack Obama up for president? He's quite the presidential-esque figure, no? I was reading his website earlier today, and I got the feeling it's a lot of pretty words wrapped up in the same ol' package. He did give an impassioned speech last Nov on Iraq, which was really quite good, and is very respectful towards President Bush and his administration.
 
True. I'm putting together a fascism post for the After Dark site to illustrate the danger of censorship during trying times. Be sure to click the book burning picture for the whole story when I get done.
 
Honu,

Obama is so inexperienced I don't think he would stand even a tiny chance of getting elected while the world faces so many problems.

I think if he were to drop the Senate and become a governor he would stand a much better chance down the line or possibly from a the Vice President position, but his biggest problem is that once you get beyond his flowery rhetoric he is ultra liberal.

Bill Clinton had that same knack for making nothing sound great, but when you peeled it back and figured out he hadn't really said anything at least you found a fairly moderate guy.

The new post is up. The story hiding behind the picture is fascinating.
 
Thanks RW -- very insightful on Obama. Appreciate that. I'll use your new story as my bedtime reading this evening. I finally figured out how to use my computer on wireless!!! Long and funny story, re: me and my nifty new computer. I'll relate another day.

Have a wonderful evening -- it is always so nice talking to you and everyone else here. I thank you for that.

love, baby honu
 
Goodnight Honu!
 
"Swift Boat Veterans for Themselves" ignored a couple issues CRITICAL to our troops at war during the run-up to the 2004 election.

First, they sat silent knowing full well that Bush NEVER USED the number of troops he incessantly claims his generals asked for. Turkey would not allow the 40,000 troops of the 4th to pass through and participate in Bush's invasion of Iraq.

Bush waged war KNOWING our troops were 40,000 short.

Second, these same Lookatme! Showboaters sat silent when this very same troop shortage resulted in America's greatest tragedy of the war in Iraq.

EVERYONE who's ever gone through basic training knows that when you find your enemies weapons, you keep them secure.

Hundreds of tons of high explosives that our troops had captured at Al Qaqaa were abandoned specifically due to troops shortages, CREATED by Bush's incompetence in war.

These explosive stolen from Al Qaqaa are the weapons that have been used to blow our troops into too many parts to count each and every day of this war.

When some pasty butt wimp, like Larry Bailey of bootmurtha.com, decides to pass his "gimme' some money" collection plate to support his concept of patriotism for a circus tent performance at The Cambria County War Memorial on October 1st of this year ...

Some would say there's nothing more patriotic than putting a moron who's never given a hoot about our troops at war (or he would have spoke up about those 40k troops left behind and Al Qaqaa IN 2004) in his proper place ...he's a coward.

To make matters even MORE entertaining, Larry Bailey actually thinks having John O'Neill, the original Lookatme! Show Boater, as his surprise guest speaker is a feather in his cap.

You may not like the stand John Murtha has been making, but for anyone who supports our troops at war, there's no way to respond to these idiot Swiftboaters' Reunion in Murtha's home town of Johnstown, Pa, than a chorus of Bronx raspberries.

I hope this clarifies.


Cliff Hancuff
The World of Journalism Is Flat, Too
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Things are JUST NOT GOING WELL for the folks at the "Diana Irey for Congress" camp.

Diana Irey Press Release UPDATE!

http://community.cnhi.com/eve/fo...611/m/911101894
(read first 4 posts, the rest if you fancy to)

http://community.cnhi.com/eve/fo...611/m/631100794

http://community.cnhi.com/eve/fo...611/m/134103794
(click all links found in post, or you will get/be lost)

http://community.cnhi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/38410611/m/197109694
 
Chancuff,

The Swift boat Vets were not some group claiming omnipotence on all issues. They had been viciously slandered by a man they thought was being less than honest about his war record. They made their case with almost no mainstream press coverage other than those calling them liars.

With all that the Kerry camp had to change several of their claims and not a single significant the Swifties said was ever shown to be false.

You couldn't have guarded all of the millions of tons of weapons found in Iraq with 10 times the troop count we had and your answer appears to be that we shouldn't have done a thing. Do you think Saddam was waiting for a convenient time to throw them out and become a peaceful goat farmer?

Murtha may have had some military credibility once, but he lost it with me when he convinced Clinton that the way to solve all of our Middle East problems was to run from Somalia. I don't think I'll be taking any advice from him after that.

I notice you don't seem to have a problem with Murtha holding out for a bigger bribe during Abscam either.

Thanks for stopping by.
 
By the way, Chancoff. Your links don't work.
 
RE-POST WITH EXPLANATION. THE LINKS ABOVE ARE TRUNCATED AND NOT CORRECT. THE LINKS HERE MAY APPEAR THE SAME, BUT THEY POINT TO THE PROPER PLACES.
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"Swift Boat Veterans for the Truth" ignored a couple issues CRITICAL to our troops at war during the run-up to the 2004 election.

First, they sat silent knowing full well that Bush NEVER USED the number of troops he incessantly claims his generals asked for. Turkey would not allow the 40,000 troops of the 4th to pass through and participate in Bush's invasion of Iraq.

Bush waged war KNOWING our troops were 40,000 short.

Second, these same Lookatme! Showboaters sat silent when this very same troop shortage resulted in America's greatest tragedy of the war in Iraq.

EVERYONE who's ever gone through basic training knows that when you find your enemies weapons, you keep them secure.

Hundreds of tons of high explosives that our troops had captured at Al Qaqaa were abandoned specifically due to troops shortages, CREATED by Bush's incompetence in war.

These explosive stolen from Al Qaqaa are the weapons that have been used to blow our troops into too many parts to count each and every day of this war.

When some pasty butt wimp, like Larry Bailey of bootmurtha.com, decides to pass his "gimme' some money" collection plate to support his concept of patriotism for a circus tent performance at The Cambria County War Memorial on October 1st of this year ...

Some would say there's nothing more patriotic than putting a moron who's never given a hoot about our troops at war (or he would have spoke up about those 40k troops left behind and Al Qaqaa IN 2004) in his proper place ...he's a coward.

To make matters even MORE entertaining, Larry Bailey actually thinks having John O'Neill, the original Lookatme! Show Boater, as his surprise guest speaker is a feather in his cap.

You may not like the stand John Murtha has been making, but for anyone who supports our troops at war, there's no way to respond to these idiot Swiftboaters' Reunion in Murtha's home town of Johnstown, Pa, than a chorus of Bronx raspberries.

I hope this clarifies.


Cliff Hancuff
The World of Journalism Is Flat, Too
---------------------------------------------
Things are JUST NOT GOING WELL for the folks at the "Diana Irey for Congress" camp.

Diana Irey Press Release UPDATE!


http://community.cnhi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/38410611/m/911101894
(read first 4 posts, the rest if you fancy to)

http://community.cnhi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/38410611/m/631100794

http://community.cnhi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/38410611/m/134103794
(click all links found in post, or you will get/be lost)

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"With all that the Kerry camp had to change several of their claims and not a single significant the Swifties said was ever shown to be false."

Virtually every single claim made by Swift Boat Veterans for Truth have been proven false, with ONE exception. One of them claimed to have served on the same Swift boat with Kerry, and actually did. No need to fault him for making claims about what Kerry may or may not have done on dates in which this same goofball was no longer on Kerry's boat.

Google it, assuming truth, as opposed to "Truth" as used by these cowards, has value for you.
 
Chancuff,

Prove your claim or STFU, don't ask people to google something when you know full well a google search will simply take them to a bunch of web sites making the same bogus claims you are.

Kerry had to change his "Christmas in Cambodia" story, his phony claim that Nixon sent him when Nixon wasn't even President yet. He had to acknowledge that he had claimed a purple heart for an incident that happened two weeks before he had written a letter saying he had not yet come under fire. He had to admit that his first claimed "tour" was really not in country and he still won't release his records.

If you want to keep posting your drivel why don't you come up to the current posts. This is a low traffic blog, but the people that do post here are some of the smartest around and will destroy your petty arguments.
 
LOLOL~!~!
God bless America's goofball pissant cowards who have NEVER HEARD OF AL QAQAA.
Do something useful with your writing skills, write Larry Bailey and ask him about his cut&run from my challenge:
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Larry Bailey of bootmurtha.com's private email address can be found at the top of this letter. Take a moment to drop him a note to ask if he's going to cut&run from my challenge.
For some samples of Diana Irey's Cut&Runs, go here:
http://community.cnhi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/38410611/m/524108205?r=587104305#587104305
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Subject: RE: Iraqi Governemt Kicks Dubya's "Stay the Course" TO THE CURB!
Date: 9/14/2006 10:16:18 A.M. Eastern Standard Time
From: JournalismIsFlat
To: bootmurtha@cox.net
CC: diana@irey.com, bill@irey.com, kphiel@hotmail.com, jason@irey.com, Rusty@irey.com, lbailey@bootmurtha.com, publicist@bootmurtha.com, webmaster@bootmurtha.com, comment@bootmurtha.com, JournalismIsFlat, osc@bootmurtha.com, opditch@gmail.com


It's "Show Time", wimp.

http://community.cnhi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/38410611/m/628102694?r=262105205#262105205

Cliff Hancuff
The World of Journalism Is Flat, Too
 
Cliffie,

If I post a brand spanking new thread about what a screw up Mothra is will you come to the main page? Otherwise I might leave you back down here to talk to yourself.
 
As most who attended the rally know, I was there. After the dust had cleared created by some moonbat among the bootmurtha crowd who called in a fake police report that a fight had broken out, Larry Bailey came out to speak with me.


I complimented him from the bottom of my heart for the contributions he has made to our country's national security while he was serving active duty in the US Navy.

He made it clear my request to speak would not happen. He then proceeded to suggest he has no memory of the email he wrote me on 8/20/2006 2:59:30 P.M. Eastern Standard Time stating that our current Commander in Chief made stupid mistakes in Iraq.

Larry then proceeded to illustrate stupid mistakes made in passed wars. After he mentioned 3 or 4 examples I interjected that there is a difference between those wars and this one.

In the past it took weeks, months, sometimes years for mistakes to be discovered and reported. Today is the information age where mistakes are reported within hours of their occurrence. I reminded him this war was still going on. I also reminded him of the glaring mistakes he had acknowledged President Bush had made in Iraq, and our respective use of the Internet to support our respective views and that is where our conversation ended.

I waited outside the Arena with a Johnstown police officer who had stayed behind after the bootmurtha hysterics caused 3 squad cars and a sergeant to arrive with sirens blaring. I was debating Steeler football with him when a motorcycle officer stopped by, who had been inside. When I asked how many were inside he said, "not many at all" When I asked "500?", he responded, "na ... well maybe 500, at most."

At the end of the event when Larry Bailey came out for a photo op next to the bootmurtha.com sign on the sidewalk outside the War Memorial Arena. I handed Larry the speech I had waited to deliver. He put it in his outside left coat pocket.

This is my speech Larry Bailey has in his coat pocket ... the words he was not man enough to let me say:


"Please join me in Prayer.

Heavily father we pray today for you to continue to protect the men and women of the armed forces of the United States and other countries who are in harms way in Iraq, Afghanistan, and other countries throughout the world. We thank them and their families for their sacrifices.

We pray for the souls of those who have made the ultimate sacrifice in all wars. We pray for strength and courage for the POWs and MIAs and those held hostage.

We pray for protection and safety of relief workers helping those in need.

We pray for the protection of children and innocent civilians. Lord we especially pray for our nation and our leaders."


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Below you will find the press release that went out on October 29th of this year.
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LARRY BAILEY (BOOTMURTHA.COM) OCTOBER 1ST RALLY IN JOHNSTOWN, PA.

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
CONTACT: Cliff Hancuff
September 29, 2006 (202) 247-1418
Journalismisflat@aol.com

"American troops could be home now, except for critical mistakes made by our current Commander in Chief," charges Cliff Hancuff, Director of The World of Journalism Is Flat, Too.

"Media and right-wing bloggers are ignoring this fact. For weeks I have been challenging political activists and journalists to act with a minimum of ethical standards," continued Hancuff.

"I became involved when the Sun-Sentinel in Florida reported that Rep. John Murtha (D-Pa.) said the U.S. poses the top threat to world peace. I watched in dismay as the media and bloggers worldwide reported on this misquote."

"My involvement continued when I discovered Diana Irey, John Murtha's political opponent, had attacked Murtha using a fictional quote attributed to Abraham Lincoln."

"Larry Bailey of bootmurtha.com is continuing his three year blind support of our current Commander in Chief's incompetence in war. President Bush declared war in Iraq without the 4th Infantry, our most lethal, modern, and deployable heavy division in the world," added Hancuff.

This mistake lead to the atrocity of Al Qaqaa. Iraqi insurgents stole hundreds of tons of high explosives to be used as weaponry.

"These are the explosives being used by Iraqi insurgents and al Qaeda to perpetuate the war in Iraq."

"I am distressed that the same issues ignored by Swift Boat Veterans for Truth in 2004 are being ignored again in 2006," said Hancuff adding, "Americans, American soldiers, and their families deserve better."

"Without these critical mistakes made by our current Commander in Chief, our American troops would be home with their loved ones, with honor, right now."

On October 1, 2006 Hancuff be at the Cambria County War Memorial Arena located in Johnstown Pennsylvania for Larry Bailey's Swiftboating of John Murtha rally. It is there Hancuff will continue his wait for Mr. Bailey to recall the values of honor and integrity taught him by our US Navy.

There is a youtube.com video online at:

YouTube - Rovian Architecture Unplugged

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5jcyHokFyE


The World of Journalism Is Flat, Too
(202) 247-1418

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